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[pdog128]

Was looking around West Marine's website and saw an IK they were calling the Scamper I and Scamper II. It closely resembled the Lagoon, except there was no center section (thwart?) I know that WM sells some AE kayaks that are made special for them, so I was curious as to whether this was basically a Lagoon?

If so, will the accessories (specifically the drop stitch floor and backbone) fit the Scamper II? What is the trade off, if any, between the Scamper II and the Lagoon?

I'm primarily asking because I'm trying to decide between an AdvancedFrame and the Scamper II. The Scamper II is appealing because it looks like I would be able to store more gear for camping and that it would be easier to set for solo paddling than the 2 person Lagoon.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[PJohanson]

You'll have to check with JCooley and the other AE people to be sure whether the accessories fit. I think you can use either a drop-stitch floor or a Backbone, but definitely not both!
I paddle a West Marine version of the earlier model of what's now the Lagoon. I like the bright colours of the deck.
I also paddle an Expedition, and I've paddled my friend's AdvancedFrame 10.5. In my opinion, if you're looking for something to use when solo paddline, with a little room for gear so you can go camping, the Expedition is the kayak I'd recommend. It feels much more like a sea kayak on the water. It has more glide, so it covers more distance at a faster speed, especially with a Backbone. I am not a big or strong person, but I strap my Expedition in its case on a luggage roller and take it on the bus & down rough footpaths.
The Lagoon 2 feels more like a sit-on-top and is harder to steer when paddled solo. It's very good for recreational outings, nice and stable. I consider it a very affordable double, and particularly handy for taking a child on the water, or someone who can't paddle much (do lots of safety practise!). By the time I'm going to haul around a kayak this heavy for a solo trip, I prefer the more efficient shape of the Expedition. Personal tastes vary.

[JCOOLEY]

Scamper I and Scamper II are essentially the Lagoon and LAgoon2. The ScamperII is different then the Lagoon2 in the fact that it is a wide open cockpit. You can however still add the Backbone or the Dropstitch floor for the Scamper II. The Backbone would be the DF2 backbone AE2023-DF2 and the floor would be the AEDS1009.

[Myrna49]

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[sonar]

Hi Myrna49
Welcome to the forum.