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7 PSI Dropstitch Floors

Post by paulrb02 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:39 pm

Advanced Elements 7 PSI Dropstitch Floors

http://www.airkayaks.com/aedropstitch.html

I was looking around and found this, I was hoping to find some more reviews and info on it. Anybody know where I can find some.

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Post by micahgee » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:59 pm

it says you can "buy now"?!?

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Post by JCOOLEY » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:08 am

Just got these in and airkayaks is curently the only dealer that has them in stock. We decided to try an upgraded floor. works like the backbone. It is very stiff.

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Post by paulrb02 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:41 am

So does this replace the backbone (and stock floor of course). Looks like a good idea, just tying to find info on it.

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Post by JCOOLEY » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:45 am

You can use it in place of the stock floor and because it is dropstitch a backbone is not necessary and can not be used along with the floor. We have been asked for a couple of years to come out with dropstitch floors but there wasn't a very high demand. Now there is. Dropstitch technology though is pricey and therefore is why we don't include it with the kayak. It would bump the price of each model over $100. We thought we could offer it as an upgrade option however.

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dropstich floor vs backbone

Post by raw10128 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:37 pm

have an afc. thinking of getting a backbone but would prefer the floor if it performres the same or better. dont want the hassel of putting in the backbone and like the idea of less weight. Can anyone tell me if the backbone will perfrom better in afc vs the dropstitch floor. tks

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Post by dspid2404 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:30 am

Is the installation procedure for this floor different in any way than the standard floor? Do you have any pictures of the floor inside an Expedition or similar size kayaks?
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Post by dspid2404 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:32 am

raw10128 - If you go to the link that paulrb02 mentions, there is a review that answers your question.

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Post by dspid2404 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:40 am

If inflated without a gauge, it is easy to estimate the proper inflation/stiffness?

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Post by JCOOLEY » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:23 am

1. Goes in like the normal floor
2. It is a different valve so it uses a different pump attachment. When it gets stiff and harder to inflate, you are usually at where you need to be regarding the pressure. You can then check pressure with a seperate gauge. Because it is dropstitch, it is very hard to over inflate and you will really need to crank away on the pump which is hard to when it gets up to pressure.

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Post by dspid2404 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:14 pm

OK. Sounds good. Is the spring valve the same one that is used on the main tubes in the current kayaks (Expedition in my case)?

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Post by JCOOLEY » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:29 pm

It is a spring loaded valve but is not the one that is on the kayaks. It is a Halkey Roberts valve.

http://www.halkeyroberts.com/products/i ... valve.aspx

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Post by dspid2404 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:20 pm

Which leads the the question - does the AE2009 or AE2011 pumps have a fitting that will work on this new valve? Or, if not, is a fitting available that will work on the AE2009 and AE2011 to blow up this floor?

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Post by JCOOLEY » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:29 am

It is a different fitting that the AE2009 and 2011 don't have. The floors are supposed to come with an adaptor. The first batch didn't so we are working on getting those in to send out with the floors. The 3/4" fitting that is on the AE2009 and AE2011 ppress fit into the adaptor that screws onto the valve. So as long as you have the adaptor, the AE2009 and AE2011 and AE2001 will work.

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Post by dspid2404 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:59 pm

AE - Has anyone had a chance to see if the new floor can be blown up outside of the kayak and then inserted under the uninflated main tubes (deck zippers open)? If possible it would definitely be easier to use than the backbone and standard floor design.

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