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love this 'yak!!!!

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:36 pm
by BladeZealot
I just have to say again how much I love this thing!!!!

I've an '08 AE 1009Y Expedition. I purchased it in December of '07 after discovering the enjoyment of the Dfly II. Sold my hardshells and have not looked back!!

I carry my Expedition EVERYWHERE I go. It's always in my trunk, along with all my gear and a couple of paddles. I'm on the water as much as possible {mostly class I rivers locally}. I've a lake about 60 feet from my front door, but usually prefer the River...more to see.

A friend at work offered me a tandem hardshell a couple years ago, knowing how much I enjoy the outdoors. I told him I had no use for a Kayak, heck, I don't even swim.

Never knew what I was missing.

Just wanted to say you guys at Advanced Elements Rock!!

Re: love this 'yak!!!!

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:50 pm
by Damien
BladeZealot wrote:I just have to say again how much I love this thing!!!!


I carry my Expedition EVERYWHERE I go. It's always in my trunk, along with all my gear and a couple of paddles. I'm on the water as much as possible {mostly class I rivers locally}. I've a lake about 60 feet from my front door, but usually prefer the River...more to see.
If you carry this Expedition everywhere you go you must have a much better back then me. :(

I just ordered this kayak and had a sinking feeling when I couldn't even get the box into the living without help from the UPS guy. I could barely lift the case out of the box. Somehow I managed to get it to my Jeep and put it in the back. It takes up all of the back of my Jeep. I can't even think of fitting anything else back there. It weighs a ton and I don't even want to THINK about taking it out of the bag for fear I won't be able to put it back in again, never mind take it out, inflate and use it. I think I'd be too exhausted to do so.

So now what do I do. I'm hoping to exchange it for a smaller kayak.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:43 pm
by rsimpson
You might want to try putting your bag on end, then crouch down and lift with your back, as opposed to using your arms only. Any other questions please email info@advancedelements.com

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:30 am
by Damien
After discussing the situation with the owner of the place I bought it from I'm exchanging it for the smaller Advanced Frame. I'm hoping a few pounds less will make it a lot easier on my back and I like the fact that it's a few feet shorter so hopefuly it'll work out.

I did as you suggested and it's still hard on my back and I"m feeling rather intimidated by the size. (13 feet long). If the Dragonfly fit my needs I'd go for that one but I like to do Class 2 rivers and ocean kayaking so I want one that's a bit more "high performance". Hopefully the AF will work out.

A few grab handles on the sides of the bag would help a lot BTW.

hard to carry?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:46 am
by PJohanson
Your idea about grab handles is a good one. Maybe the biggest problem is the bag, for you. Perhaps a hockey gear bag, with wheels and straps, would suit you better.
The Dragonfly is a great little boat, much lighter than the Expedition. It's only 20 pounds. I've got mine on holiday with me now in Toronto. I took it on the plane, and the subway, and streetcars and buses. With my paddle gear in the bag and the overstuffed bag strapped on a folding luggage dolly/roller, that's some 30 pounds instead of the 46 pounds just for the Expedition.
I wouldn't want to promise you that class II water would be okay for the Dragonfly. Class I should be, though. As for sea kayaking, I take mine out all the time in the ocean bay by my home. I stay out of the big current we call the freight train, but otherwise I go anywhere my pals in 10-foot hardshell kayaks go.
You're right to be careful about not hurting yourself. The boat that you can use, the boat that gets you on the water -- that's the boat for you. Not something too heavy or too awkward to use by yourself or with a small friend who can't do the heavy lifting. As a small person, I agree with your wariness!

Re: love this 'yak!!!!

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:51 am
by BladeZealot
Damien wrote:
BladeZealot wrote:I just have to say again how much I love this thing!!!!


I carry my Expedition EVERYWHERE I go. It's always in my trunk, along with all my gear and a couple of paddles. I'm on the water as much as possible {mostly class I rivers locally}. I've a lake about 60 feet from my front door, but usually prefer the River...more to see.
If you carry this Expedition everywhere you go you must have a much better back then me. :(

I just ordered this kayak and had a sinking feeling when I couldn't even get the box into the living without help from the UPS guy. I could barely lift the case out of the box. Somehow I managed to get it to my Jeep and put it in the back. It takes up all of the back of my Jeep. I can't even think of fitting anything else back there. It weighs a ton and I don't even want to THINK about taking it out of the bag for fear I won't be able to put it back in again, never mind take it out, inflate and use it. I think I'd be too exhausted to do so.

So now what do I do. I'm hoping to exchange it for a smaller kayak.
Well...I have a good size trunk on my car, so it is pretty easy in and out. As has been said, perhaps a dolly would help greatly. It would allow you to prop the frame of the dolly against your vehicle and lift the base up and into the vehicle. I can see where the bag as is could be somewhat awkward to handle.

Personally, I really enjoy the stowing capacity of the Expedition...which you sacrifice with a smaller kayak. I suppose everything is a trade-off to some extent.

And you'll be surprised how quickly you become accustomed to getting the yak in and out of the bag. 8)

Good luck...whichever you choose. :D