using a sleepingpad as floor

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using a sleepingpad as floor

Post by bolletog » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:17 pm

What do u guys and girls think about switching the floor with a sleepingpad?
Sleepingpad as in a thermarest or whatever u use.

This is to reduce weigth on multipe day trips. Or I could use the floor as a sleepingpad in the tent, but since its heavier than the regular sleepingpad I wanna try using a ordinary sleepingpad as a floor in the kayak.

Anyone se any problems with this?

only problem I see is that the sleepingpad will get wet, but maybe not a really a big problem after all

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Post by Bob S » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:47 pm

As I remember it, the thermarest is not as thick as the yak floor so it may not give you or the yak proper support. Also, the yak floor is fitting for the yak and could fit in a tent but the thermarest is rectangular and may not fit well in the yak.

It's an interesting idea. Let us know if you take the thermarest out for a test run.

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Post by dspid2404 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:33 pm

Bad idea! The floors of AE's kayaks are not just designed for comfort in the kayak. It is mostly to transfer your weight more evenly throughout the hull and against the water pressure pushing upward. To do this it is custom fitted into the kayaks so that it contours the floor from just under the main tubes. There are a few other reasons but that is the main one. I would use the floor of the kayak as a sleeping pad rather than the otherway around.

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Post by silverdarling » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:07 pm

thanks posters, i was thinking about this myself .

point taken that the floor spreads weight around the boat, i notice if floor is not in straight, tracking is poor. it does also provide supreme comfort in a tent (even if it needs crammed a little) or under the stars.

however the floor seems to be the most puncture prone part of the kit (apart from the cowling ... i've given up on that) and having less weight to lug around is a VERY big deal.

I'm hoping to take my Expedition to West Africa for a wee tour and weight and punctures are a major issue. plus the plastic will be hot sweaty hell to sleep on. I naively took a thermarest to Ghana once; it lasted 4 days. local transport and bush thorns put more holes in it than i could fix and it was too hot to sleep on anyway. Africa is tough on gear and a lot of western kit won't take it.

So, for a river trip i'd like to ditch the inflatable floor for a grass mat or suchlike , but maybe some kind of frame or sortof plywood floor might be better?

any thoughts or experience appreciated.


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Post by silverdarling » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:49 pm

i took the floor to west africa , it survived and was very comfortable to sleep on, trip report here --

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Post by himmelsyna » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:33 pm

Nice trip report :)

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