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Paddle Choice

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:27 am
by el_brio
Hi. I am buying a AE Frame 10.5 today (I think) and have been stressing myself out over paddle choice. This is my first 'yak but I have been paddling a canoe around some pretty fast moving rivers for years now. With the canoe, paddle choice didn't really make a big difference since we pretty much go down river but I want to buy the "right" 'yak paddle from the get go.

I am 6'2" and 210 lbs. I plan to use the yak mostly on small sheltered lakes and small to large rivers around here (Chicago) and may make some "fair weather" close-to-shore trips in lake Michigan once it warms up (that is usually mid July). I am a fisherman and will likely be fishing most of the time I am in the kayak. Here is th paddle I was thinking about getting: (in a 240 cm)

http://www.wernerpaddles.com/paddles/skagit.html

A guy at the local REI said that the blade is a low angle one and for an inflatable he would recommend something with a bigger surface area. They have a couple with larger surface areas but they are all aluminum (albeit cheaper). My dilemma is that I think that the lighter fiberglass handled Skagit looks like a much nicer paddle and from what I have heard, I don't want an aluminum paddle but the store "expert's" advice is pushing me towards the bigger bladed aluminum shaft.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Also, with proper (but not obsessive) care of the yak, how many seasons can I expect to get out of it?

Thanks,
Brian

paddle choice

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:08 am
by jcorder
Brian,

I am not an expert by any means, but do use my AE convertible for fishing very often.

The longest paddles that I go on are about 8 miles in the sea of cortez. I have the aluminum shaft Day Tripper, and have been happy with the larger surface area to help push the kayak through the water. It hasn't been heavy for me.

Regards,

Jim

Re: Paddle Choice

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:11 am
by KayakJack
There was a post a short while back regarding paddles, here's the link to it:

http://advancedelements.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=195

Hope it helps and happy paddling!


el_brio wrote:Hi. I am buying a AE Frame 10.5 today (I think) and have been stressing myself out over paddle choice. This is my first 'yak but I have been paddling a canoe around some pretty fast moving rivers for years now. With the canoe, paddle choice didn't really make a big difference since we pretty much go down river but I want to buy the "right" 'yak paddle from the get go.

I am 6'2" and 210 lbs. I plan to use the yak mostly on small sheltered lakes and small to large rivers around here (Chicago) and may make some "fair weather" close-to-shore trips in lake Michigan once it warms up (that is usually mid July). I am a fisherman and will likely be fishing most of the time I am in the kayak. Here is th paddle I was thinking about getting: (in a 240 cm)

http://www.wernerpaddles.com/paddles/skagit.html

A guy at the local REI said that the blade is a low angle one and for an inflatable he would recommend something with a bigger surface area. They have a couple with larger surface areas but they are all aluminum (albeit cheaper). My dilemma is that I think that the lighter fiberglass handled Skagit looks like a much nicer paddle and from what I have heard, I don't want an aluminum paddle but the store "expert's" advice is pushing me towards the bigger bladed aluminum shaft.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Also, with proper (but not obsessive) care of the yak, how many seasons can I expect to get out of it?

Thanks,
Brian

how many seasons?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:50 pm
by PJohanson
El Brio asked: "Also, with proper (but not obsessive) care of the yak, how many seasons can I expect to get out of it?"
I've been using my Dragonfly a couple times a week for two and a half years and it's in great condition. A friend has had a 10.5 for three years.

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:32 am
by jon
I too am trying to decide which paddle to go for. I will be buying an advanced elements paddle with my kayaks and am trying to choose between:

4 part paddle

or

3 part adjustable.

I had a look at both paddles in a show and are of similar weight and quality.
For me the 3 part seems attractive as it can be adjusted in length and angle so different people can use it! Has anyone tried these in the water? I'm worried in case the locking collars/collet rings will wear over time as they are only made of plastic. Has anyone had experience of this?

Would I be better picking the simpler non-adustable 4 part or the adjustable 3 part (both cost the same!).

OR perhaps i would be better of ignoring both and going for a different paddle altogether? Any thoughts or advice would be welcome!


Thanks

paddle suggestion

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:01 am
by PJohanson
Get two paddles. You'll need a spare, for safety, of course. So one could be really cheap, like $25 two-part aluminum shaft with plastic blades.
The one you'll use most of the time can be anything, really, greenland, bent shaft, fibreglass, etc. as long as you like how it feels. Don't just spend more because you think it should be "better" -- you can always buy a carbon shaft paddle (expensive and light) next year, when you've got some experience and know what you like.
The differences between paddles aren't what makes one good for you or not. It's what you'll do with them, how long you'll paddle, how it feels for you -- that's what makes the difference. My $50 paddle is great. A friend just paid $120 for carbon shaft and he's happy too. STart with affordable paddles, borrow others and try out samples at a paddling festival.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:04 am
by jon
Brilliant advice! Thanks!

All ready have a couple of the aluminium paddles - will probably invest in another from AE later this year when i buy my kayaks.


Thanks

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:11 pm
by kiltie_celt
el_brio

I thought I'd bump this thread in case you were watching. I live in the Chicago area as well and I just bought an AE Expedition. It was an upgrade from a Sevylor Pointer K1. Anyway, just wondering if you bought your AE Advanced Frame 10.5. I'm always looking for someone else in the area with an inflatable. I go out to Skokie Lagoons frequently and don't see anyone but kayakers in hardshell boats.

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:16 pm
by Damien
I started with an aluminum shaft Canon paddle. It came in 4 pieces and that appealed to me. It was just miserable. The buttons you push to take it apart stopped working within a few times of using it so it became a two piece paddle. It was 2.2lbs and I found it very fatiguing to use on long paddles. It had this plastic grip with a sharp edge that tore at my hands.

I recently splurged and purchased this paddle.. http://www.wernerpaddles.com/paddles/kalliste.html

It's a carbon fiber paddle and is lightweight, can be adjusted for feathering, has the optional smaller shaft diameter and is WONDERFUL. If you don't want to spend as much there are other less expensive options to choose from that offer good performance but weigh a bit more.

Stay away from the cheap aluminum paddles except as a spare though. Believe me, a good paddle is worth it's weight in gold...literally.