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PUMP SUGGESTION

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:11 pm
by dspid2404
The double action pump that Advanced Elements sells is a great pump with one flaw that I have come across. I have an AE1009 which requires the screw-on fitting and one of the other standard fittings. These tend to come off the hose easily when you're pumping away. This is a bit annoying after you are 25 pumps into it and you have to start over again. What I did was purchased an extra hose from Advanced Elements directly for $10.00 and glued the two fittings I needed to their own hoses. Problem solved and it makes it much easier. However it does require a bit more room to stow. Worth it in my opinion. Just a suggestion.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:24 pm
by Pearly
I just wrapped some electrical insulation tape around the hose nozzle a couple of times and it sticks in the larger 2 valves without coming out. The valve is in the inflate position at this time. The smaller orange twist valves fit inside this same nozzle - again, no problem.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:56 pm
by dspid2404
I see what you saying but I think they may have changed the fittings. I use the screw on one for the two main tubes and the larger of the three fittings. Is that the two you are talking about?

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:15 pm
by Pearly
Maybe they have changed then, mine didn't have the screw on fitting.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:10 am
by dspid2404
They changed to a military style valve that requires a screw on adapter. I think they did this starting this year.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:11 am
by paddlesheep
The newer AE's, as I understand it, use their own version of the military valve, which fits standard pump adaptors. The older models had the regular military valve, which needs a larger adaptor (I use the tape around the nozzle trick as well).

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:31 am
by JCOOLEY
The 2006-current models of kayaks all have the newer style of Military Spring valve that we designed specifically for our kayaks. Until this year, most standard pump attachments would fit into the two main valves and fit over the smaller twist valves. Sometimes the pump attachment will be a little off in size and may pop out while pumping. A simple fix of some masking tape wrapped around the pump attachment will take care of this. It thickens the diameter of the attachment and gives it a little grip to help it stay put in the two main valves.
As of 2009 our pumps now come with an attachment that we designed that will actually screw onto the two main valves to secure it into place. They still come with the older attachments so that you can switch to the 3/4" attachment that fits over the smaller twist valves.
If you currently have an older Advance Elements Foot Pump or Hand pump without the screw on attachment, we offer the attachment seperately. It can be found and purchased through our replacement parts section on the website. The cost is only for shipping.

Jeremy
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:04 pm
by Pearly
Thanks for the clarification.

From the first post, it sound like the valve was in the deflate position instead of the inflate position. You only need it in the deflate position for the electric pumps and for deflating.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:34 pm
by rsimpson
To add to the Pearly's post above /\

If you have the double-action pump with gauge(AE2011), the spring valve will need to be in the deflate position in order to get a accurate reading. The gauge requires back pressure to work.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:18 am
by JCOOLEY
rsimpson wrote:To add to the Pearly's post above /\

If you have the double-action pump with gauge(AE2011), the spring valve will need to be in the deflate position in order to get a accurate reading. The gauge requires back pressure to work.
This is if you have the AE2011 pumps from 2004-2008 which didn't have the spring valve adaptor attached to them. The current AE2011 comes with the spring valve adaptor which when screwed onto the valve, has a little notch that pushes the spring valve down to keep it open to get and accurate reading. The Spring valve adaptors are available seperatley if you have an older model of pump. You can find them on our replacement parts section on our website.

Jeremy