Water getting in

Problems with your kayak? Tracking to one side over the other? Taking on water? Losing Air? Post your questions, suggestions and answers here regarding issues with the kayaks.

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woodwizard
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Water getting in

Post by woodwizard » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:24 pm

I'm getting water inside. Today close to a gallon in 45 minutes.
I don't believe all of it is coming from the paddle.
Is there a way to check the seams or something else?

Thanks
Darrell
Paddling the Carquinez Striats.

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Post by Pearly » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:00 am

You could fill the kayak with water and see if or where water is coming out!

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Post by woodwizard » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:56 am

Ok. I'll try that and get back to this forum.
And thanks for getting back to me quickly.

Darrell

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Post by JCOOLEY » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:06 am

Darrell,

What model kayak do have?

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I have the Lagoon I

Post by woodwizard » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:31 pm

I just have a Lagoon I. It is fun. It doesn't go as fast as my friends full on sea kayak but it handles way better in the small wave action of the Carquinez Straits. And that is what I love. I'm looking to try out some class 1 and 2 white water sometime with it.

Darrell

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Post by JCOOLEY » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:39 pm

Email info@advancedelements.com with the hull id # of the kayak. Starts with XZE.

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Hull ID

Post by woodwizard » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:49 pm

XZE0469YA909

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Post by Pearly » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:52 pm

That is the hull ID, but you need to send that to the email address above for their tech support to help you.

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Sent email to customer support

Post by woodwizard » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:38 am

Pearly
Thanks for queuing me in to what the post actually said.

I emailed to customer service this morning.

Darrell

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Post by Pearly » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:07 pm

I'd be interested to find out what the problem is - this one sounds very unusual! Please keep us updated?

Thanks,

Ian

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The Update

Post by woodwizard » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:14 pm

I filled the kayak with water and sure enough at the seams of the fabric the water was coming out. I sent a report to info@advancedelements.com.

They were very quick to get back to me. Email said this can happen when over inflating or left out in the sun.

Oh. I probably over inflate the tubes. I like them really hard. I always over do things. (If a little bit is good then a lot must be better, right?)
I'll be looking into getting a pump with a pressure gauge on it.
I don't quite understand the sun part. Every time I kayak it is in the daytime when the sun is shining.

Anyways the fix is to apply Aquaseal to the seams on the inside. They offered to do it for me If I take it over there. (They are located just across the water from me.) But I think I can do it myself.

I'll let you know how that goes.

Darrell
Can't paddle tomorrow.

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Post by PJohanson » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:32 pm

Good to hear you're getting a pump with a pressure gauge.
The Lagoon is such a forgiving boat that you don't need to inflate it fully. On hot days, I often inflate it less than full -- maybe 85%. This means it has a little "give" but it doesn't fold in the middle when I pick it up at one end. I've paddled it full of air and it really doesn't need to be that hard and rigid. I tried it once about 2/3 full and it floats but is pretty soft. I like how the Lagoon handles at about 85 or 90% full, not absolutely full.
The worry is that if you leave the boat out in the bright, hot sunshine the air inside the kayak will heat up and expand. If you're on the water, the kayak loses much of this heat to the water. But if the boat is sitting on shore or in very shallow water, it can get pretty hot inside. The inflation chamber will stretch and could be damaged or even pop.
When I want to get out and have a picnic or something on shore, I let some of the air out. When I'm ready to go, I puff up the boat a bit and go.

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Post by woodwizard » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:38 am

Thank you. Now I understand about the sun. It is good getting educated on the finer points. And when I get that pump I will try it at different pressures. I think 2 lbs is the max?
I got some of the sealant. I havnt applied it yet. Hopefully today.

Darrell
High and dry for a week now.

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Wated problem

Post by comvigo » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:01 am

Try to fill the kayak with water and see if or where water is coming out or not......

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Post by sonar » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:46 pm

Hi comvigo.

Welcome to this one fantastic forum.

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