zipper lets water through

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Nice Legs!
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zipper lets water through

Post by Nice Legs! » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:53 pm

I have the 2 person advanced convertible frame kayak, and also the matching sprayskirt. During paddling, a "dip" develops under the front zipper of the kayak, and any water that is collected there slowly leaks on the paddlers legs( the 2 decklifts are fully inflated)....anyone????

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Post by John » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:24 am

Yep. That is a problem. There is I think a discussion about this elsewhere on the forum. The best thing to do is use some McNett zip wax and hope that keeps water out but it will not be completely succesful. I think some clever invention is called for here.

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Post by JCOOLEY » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:37 pm

It is a slight issue but is usually corrected by pushing up under the deck with your knees. Others have used pieces of faom and other items to help tighten the area up as well. It has been discussed in another area here on the forum. I personally do not have the problem because I do paddle with my knees bent and therefore am usually pushing up on the deck.

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Re: zipper lets water through

Post by KayakJack » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:26 pm

If you don't care about aesthetics, you can always apply a strip of good masking tape (3M Blue 2-3" wide, etc.) and over the zippers after zippering it up. The masking tape will be easy to remove when done and won't leave adhesive residue whereas duct tape and packing tape can - especially after being underneath the sun for some time. (Or you can stick it underneath the zipper to avoid the sun, aesthetic purposes, and to avoid any unsightly adhesive residue - it's also coated on the bottom, making removal of tape easier.)
Nice Legs! wrote:I have the 2 person advanced convertible frame kayak, and also the matching sprayskirt. During paddling, a "dip" develops under the front zipper of the kayak, and any water that is collected there slowly leaks on the paddlers legs( the 2 decklifts are fully inflated)....anyone????

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Post by John » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:07 pm

An idea I have had but not yet got round to trying is to cut an old windsurfing sail batten and place each end between the pontoons/large bladders and the small heightening inflation points at front (can't remember what they are called). I thought this may create a more rounded and higher front like hard shell kayaks and so allow the water to run off.

Is this hair-brained?

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Post by Tandem2 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:14 pm

I used a laser batten and that has raised the deck at the zip. The batten was the right length and didn't need shortening and the caps on the ends don't abraid the deck material.

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Post by yvd1 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:23 am

I see people mentioning periodically the problem with the water getting in through zipper.
AE forum moderators provide useful explanation and workarounds ( really appreciated !). I am not sure if I miss something and there a deep reasons for why this cannot be addressed by AE by change in the design.
I am just curios why AE does not provide a systemic solution. I would think something like a flap with a velcro that covers the sipper would be enough.

Is there a forum where customers can suggest improvements? I am new to kayaking , but even after short time being owner of the AE1009 I see areas that seem to me could be improved with simple additions. For example, I think AE would sell many more foot pegs if they made pegs pads fordable and people would not have to remove and install them every time. Again, I could be wrong and missing something .

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Post by JCOOLEY » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:09 am

yvd1 wrote:I see people mentioning periodically the problem with the water getting in through zipper.
AE forum moderators provide useful explanation and workarounds ( really appreciated !). I am not sure if I miss something and there a deep reasons for why this cannot be addressed by AE by change in the design.
I am just curios why AE does not provide a systemic solution. I would think something like a flap with a velcro that covers the sipper would be enough.

Is there a forum where customers can suggest improvements? I am new to kayaking , but even after short time being owner of the AE1009 I see areas that seem to me could be improved with simple additions. For example, I think AE would sell many more foot pegs if they made pegs pads fordable and people would not have to remove and install them every time. Again, I could be wrong and missing something .

yvd1

If you notice, most of the posts about zipper issue were from 2009 and before. We have addressed these issues and do not find to have leaks through the zippers very often anymore.

As far as the Foot Pegs go, you AE1009 comes with a foot bar to push your feet against. If you wished to use the AE4003 Djustable foot Pegs instead, you could. They are reasonably priced at $80 but need to be removed each time in order to fold up the kayak. You cannot fold the kayak with them in.

You can always post suggestions in the forum in any one on these threads, or reach out directly to the company. info@advancedelements.com

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